tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119906447472922361.post4199613943437891272..comments2023-12-21T22:03:18.964-08:00Comments on Sound and fury, signifying nothing: Occurrence at Yearning for Zion RanchDade Cariagahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13431049944346345893noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119906447472922361.post-20505170486683125012008-06-02T13:56:00.000-07:002008-06-02T13:56:00.000-07:00The Larry King interview made me more likely to be...The Larry King interview made me more likely to believe in abuse, not less. The women were clearly cowed and not able or allowed to answer simple questions. Expecting one of these brain-washed women to stand up for the rights of a child is naive at best.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119906447472922361.post-4023307209684595552008-04-25T04:12:00.000-07:002008-04-25T04:12:00.000-07:00Quoting Ridwan:"Those children deserve to be prote...Quoting Ridwan:<BR/><BR/>"Those children deserve to be protected but my gut instinct smells the usual heavy hand odour of state moralizing."<BR/><BR/>I agree with that statement, and am waiting for the other shoe to drop. Who is benefiting from the breaking up of this little enclave of counter-culture? Whose image is enhanced by rescuing these youngsters? <BR/><BR/>One wonders if these actions, which did not result in a "compound" being turned into an inferno, with little children being roasted alive inside, have been performed to mitigate the horrible memory of David Koresh's group at Waco?Shus lihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15542421349158923239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119906447472922361.post-21011843865643618912008-04-24T11:46:00.000-07:002008-04-24T11:46:00.000-07:00Thoughtfull post Dade. I too have mixed feelings ...Thoughtfull post Dade. I too have mixed feelings about what happened.<BR/><BR/>I understand that there were allegations but it seems as the state conflated the allegations into the massive action that was taken.<BR/><BR/>In between any community there are horrible stories of sexual abuse and other abuse.<BR/><BR/>But should the state be so quick to remove all children without so much as even knowing that one of the culprits was not even in the compound anymore.<BR/><BR/>Those children deserve to be protected but my gut instinct smells the usual heavy hand odour of state moralizing.<BR/><BR/>Minors should not marry. But polygamy is a grey area and one that the US unfairly demonizes.<BR/><BR/>If, as you say, consenting adults want to live in multi-partner relationships then who the hell is the state to intervene.<BR/><BR/>Polygamy in the US, like the death penalty, is legislated as a religious position and not one that is about law and order.<BR/><BR/>The constitution does specify religion as the sole ground for legislation. But then again, the state hardly recognizes this in practice.<BR/><BR/>I worry about those kids and their mothers.<BR/><BR/>In my head I want the constitutional principle of innocence before guilt to followed.<BR/><BR/>I suspect that we will find that the state acted foolishly and it will be too late for those poor families.<BR/><BR/>Peace brother,<BR/>RidwanRidwanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758153484699728802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119906447472922361.post-80321617021423422472008-04-24T09:56:00.000-07:002008-04-24T09:56:00.000-07:00An excellent outline of my own position on the mat...An excellent outline of my own position on the matter. It's one of those situations where the optimum outcome is really simply minimizing the misery.Dan Binmorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09631203781543243534noreply@blogger.com